{"id":748,"date":"2026-09-14T16:31:04","date_gmt":"2026-09-14T20:31:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/?p=748"},"modified":"2026-09-14T16:31:04","modified_gmt":"2026-09-14T20:31:04","slug":"the-conversationalist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/the-conversationalist\/","title":{"rendered":"The Conversationalist"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The first secret Frances Brogan ever kept was that she could read. Her mother, Meagan, was reading aloud when three-year-old Frances interrupted and asked to read the next part. &#8220;I asked her, have you been reading for a long time?&#8221; Meagan recalled. &#8220;And she said yes, but she hadn\u2019t told me because she was afraid I\u2019d stop reading to her if I knew she could read by herself.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Meagan\u2019s proud stories of her daughter\u2019s youth reveal an early fascination with social experiences and human connection. She laughed as she described how Frances began speaking before her peers. &#8220;She was this little tiny baby talking to people. She made the other babies cry, because she\u2019d be like, &#8216;Hi! What\u2019s your name?\u2019 She was very intense.&#8221; At a year and a half, Frances realized that the other children on the playground wouldn\u2019t respond to her insistent introductions, so she began approaching their parents instead. As a toddler, she asked her mother to draw family trees and friend trees, tracing out the invisible lines connecting the people around her.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Today, Frances is in her final year at Princeton, her sights set on journalism once she graduates. She is managing editor of the Daily Princetonian; she reads New Yorker articles on the incline treadmill at the gym; she spent the past summer reporting on the ground in Palestine and Israel, despite her friends\u2019 concerns for her safety. And in a rigorous environment where the academic and the social are often seen as separate or even at odds, Frances has cultivated an intellectual life that is fundamentally social.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Frances\u2019 friend Sofia, also a Princeton senior, said that their bond first solidified freshman year, during a coffee meetup that turned into an hours-long conversation. <i>Anna Karenina<\/i>, Sofia noted, was one of many topics they discussed. &#8220;Frances has a tendency of making friendships that way. She\u2019s a good conversationalist. She has a way of asking questions and making you think deeply about things.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><i>Anna Karenina<\/i> is one of Frances\u2019 favorite books, an example of the sweeping epics that she gravitates toward, though she reads voraciously through everything she finds interesting. &#8220;She loves a meaty engagement,&#8221; Meagan said, &#8220;and then she loves to have someone to talk about it with. She\u2019s a very intense conversationalist.&#8221; Frances, her mother said, is drawn to the emotional and social aspects of learning as much as the learning itself \u2014 like she did as a toddler, when she hid her ability to read for fear of losing out on the shared experience.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>From a young age, Frances took firm positions on causes from geopolitics to environmentalism to feminism. Her father was a professor and a Catholic, and they often found themselves on opposing sides of issues, engaging in heated debate over religion and morality. He passed away when Frances was 13. &#8220;It\u2019s tragic that she lost her dad,&#8221; Meagan said, &#8220;but part of the tragedy is that they can\u2019t continue that conversation. She has to do it in her head.&#8221;<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Whether in her head or with the people around her, Frances is continuing these conversations. &#8220;I care and think a lot about how to live an ethical life,&#8221; she said. &#8220;I can be an asshole, and I gossip, and I\u2019ll be mean to my siblings \u2014 so I try to morally commit where I can.&#8221;<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Frances sees her mother as a defining role model \u2014 for her strength and resilience but also for her authenticity. Though Frances views herself as having &#8220;a pathologic need to be liked,&#8221; she admires how her mother never seems to code-switch or act like anyone other than her true self. Meagan recalled feeling similar when she was Frances\u2019 age, struggling to know if she was being herself. But she has a different perspective on her daughter. &#8220;I don\u2019t think she\u2019s very good at contorting herself. I don\u2019t think that\u2019s a skill she\u2019s ever developed, and I don\u2019t think she ever will. She may not know it, but she is very authentic. I think that\u2019s her lot in life \u2014 to be herself.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The first secret Frances Brogan ever kept was that she could read. Her mother, Meagan, was reading aloud when three-year-old Frances interrupted and asked to read the next part. &#8220;I asked her, have you been reading for a long time?&#8221; Meagan recalled. &#8220;And she said yes, but she hadn\u2019t told me because she was afraid<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/the-conversationalist\/\">Continue Reading<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7982,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-748","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","post-preview"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/748","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/7982"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=748"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/748\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":749,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/748\/revisions\/749"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=748"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=748"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/jrn449-f26\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=748"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}