{"id":67,"date":"2018-08-14T16:31:45","date_gmt":"2018-08-14T16:31:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/?p=67"},"modified":"2018-08-15T13:37:23","modified_gmt":"2018-08-15T13:37:23","slug":"thursday-april-7th-alex-argo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/2018\/08\/14\/thursday-april-7th-alex-argo\/","title":{"rendered":"Thursday April 7th &#8212; Alex Argo"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4>ZAMM chapters 18 and 19<\/h4>\n<p>Bill Becker is here<\/p>\n<p>Wheels team: laced the wheels<\/p>\n<p>Bottom end: put the flywheel in<\/p>\n<p>Chapter 18:<\/p>\n<p>No motorcycle references<\/p>\n<p>Content:<\/p>\n<p>Quality:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>In the beginning of the book the narrator had a strictly classical view<\/li>\n<li>Now he sees himself in Chris (his son)<\/li>\n<li>Does he (narrator) really want to achieve all those goals or does he want to be in the moment?<\/li>\n<li>Squareness: when you take away quality the only things that is left is rationale<\/li>\n<li>Professor Littman disagrees: if you do a math proof, you can do it in a long and elegant way or a short and to the point way<\/li>\n<li>Chris is having trouble scaling the mountain:<\/li>\n<li>Metaphorical piece of his arguments improving and he is getting higher up the mountain<\/li>\n<li>Parker: relating classic and romantic to subjective and objective<\/li>\n<li>Narrator says objectively a scientific proof is right or wrong no matter how you get there<\/li>\n<li>Diego: doesn\u2019t think anything is constant<\/li>\n<li>Distinction between quality and rationality:\n<ul>\n<li>Quality is fluid<\/li>\n<li>Hard science is binary<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Preston: Do you think that we are square?<\/li>\n<li>Squareness: defined as &#8220;an inability to see quality before its been intellectually defined&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>Ali thinks quality is a societal construction<\/li>\n<li>Quality is subjective<\/li>\n<li>Hudson: there is no answer<\/li>\n<li>Hudson: humans are always trying to quantify things to figure out quality<\/li>\n<li>Art should elicit an emotional reaction<\/li>\n<li>Jamie: wealthy people are the ones who end up defining quality<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Chapter 19: leader is Hudson<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Narrator trying to dodge the horns of objectivity and subjectivity of Quality<\/li>\n<li>Can&#8217;t choose between two horns so he goes in the middle and hits the bull in the face<\/li>\n<li>A combination of subjectivity and objectivity<\/li>\n<li>Digression of the word Just:<\/li>\n<li>\n<ul>\n<li>Why is there the phrase: &#8220;this is just what i like&#8221; ?<\/li>\n<li>What influences what we like? What social forces play a part in determining what we like?<\/li>\n<li>Like fashion trends<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Is true objectivity possible?<\/li>\n<li>Would we follow the rules if they weren\u2019t engrained in society?<\/li>\n<li>\u00a0 Parker: more important to think of his understanding of Quality as a lense through which people see things around them through<\/li>\n<li>aesthetics and the idea of quality<\/li>\n<li>Main point of this chapter:\n<ul>\n<li>Climbing the mountain at the end of this chapter<\/li>\n<li>Phaedrus is coming out of the narrator<\/li>\n<li>When the subject becomes aware of an object<\/li>\n<li>Without an object, the subject can\u2019t be aware of itself<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>What does it mean to do a quality job on our motorcycle?:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>It should look better<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>If it works<\/li>\n<li>If we all value and understand what we brought to the motorcycle<\/li>\n<li>Can develop our own analysis as to what actually is a quality motorcycle<\/li>\n<li>What are mistakes in the motorcycle?<\/li>\n<li>Bill Becker thinks the art is finished: it was done by some british designer<\/li>\n<li>We bring to it our own analysis of it in order to improve it<\/li>\n<li>Having the confidence to repair motorcycles in the future<\/li>\n<li>Bill Becker thinks that there is no art in restoration<\/li>\n<li>Sometimes he creates new bikes from old parts: that is art<\/li>\n<li>What is the relationship between aesthetics and art?<\/li>\n<li>Professor littman restores old radios<\/li>\n<li>Hudson thinks that you can\u2019t create a spectrum of restoration versus creating art<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>ZAMM chapters 18 and 19 Bill Becker is here Wheels team: laced the wheels Bottom end: put the flywheel in Chapter 18: No motorcycle references Content: Quality: In the beginning of the book the narrator had a strictly classical view Now he sees himself in Chris (his son) Does he (narrator) really want to achieve &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/2018\/08\/14\/thursday-april-7th-alex-argo\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Thursday April 7th &#8212; Alex Argo&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-67","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-diary"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/67","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=67"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/67\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":68,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/67\/revisions\/68"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=67"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=67"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/commons.princeton.edu\/65-tiger-cub\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=67"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}